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NEW Star Trek Series Planned!!!!
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Re: NEW Star Trek Series Planned!!!!
« Reply #1 on: August 25, 2011, 06:24:19 AM »
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script. The series is set in the post-Voyager era, and is designed to return Star Trek to its original series roots in big and mighty ways, without disregarding the other series and movies. As Star Trek (2009) was an alternate timeline, it will not conflict with any canon there either (Note: David does accept it as an “alternate canon”, if you will). The co-creators are avid believers in Gene Roddenberry’s ‘positive view of the future’ and intend to bring Star Trek back to its origins while moving forward with the timeline, integrating the best aspects of each of the previous series.”

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The series is highly energized with a much younger cast, and uses cutting-edge future technologies with newly envisioned special effects and designs. It includes Klingons, Ferengi, Andorians, Vulcans, Trill, and many more. The Klingons are getting very restless since the Praxis incident forced them to come to the peace tables, and are tired of having to rely on the Federation for support. The Ferengi have discovered a vast new resource that has propelled them towards instant riches and power beyond anything they have previously experienced.



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Re: NEW Star Trek Series Planned!!!!
« Reply #2 on: August 25, 2011, 04:04:42 PM »
Well, this sounds almost too good to be true...

PRoblem is, ENT was cancelled due to a lack of resonance, and personally, I don't think that the 2009 movie has helped that much, because it's too different.

Well, we'll see.

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Re: NEW Star Trek Series Planned!!!!
« Reply #4 on: August 25, 2011, 04:36:45 PM »
At least is a hope , A NEW HOPE .

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Re: NEW Star Trek Series Planned!!!!
« Reply #5 on: August 25, 2011, 05:05:03 PM »
ENT took place during the 22nd century
TOS took place during the 23rd century
TNG, DS9, VOY took place during the 24th century

If any new series set in the prime universe is ever made, it should probably be in the 25th or 26th century. I think in part what "oversaturated" Star Trek in the 80s-90s, was 3 separate tv-shows all taking place within the same relative time period.

The idea of a new series set in the 25th century (as evidenced in this proposal) does hold merit. However, i'm not totally onboard with the notion of having a "much younger cast" running the show. Part of Star Trek's overall appeal, has been that it's always tried to be multi-ethnic, and multi-aged characters. I'd hate to imagine TNG if they had cast a young 20-something actor to play Picard, instead of Sir Patrick Stewart.

That being said, I think for the time-being it's doubtful that much, if any sci-fi shows will be aired anytime soon. ENT (cancelled in 2005), SG:Atlantis (cancelled in 2009), SG:U (cancelled in 2010), Caprica (cancelled in 2010), Eureka (cancelled in 2011). The executives higher up seem to want to run more reality shows, and other such "nonsense" instead of quality science fiction programming. The worst offender, is ofcourse the SyFy Channel, who prefer Wrestling on their schedule over sci-fi such as Eureka and SG:U.
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Re: NEW Star Trek Series Planned!!!!
« Reply #6 on: August 25, 2011, 05:12:08 PM »
@Darkthunder half of Gateworld hates Sy-Fy for the wrestling and reality shows , more about this there .

For the of the people is it just me or the thing with a younger cast has been suggested in 2006 after ENT failed ?
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Re: NEW Star Trek Series Planned!!!!
« Reply #7 on: August 25, 2011, 08:34:41 PM »
New blood could be good - but paramount made a big deal about STXI not contradicting the prime universe when that got off the ground so I will have to be convinced. Very glad to hear there are people out there who want it to happen though.

Lets just hope they don't bring it too far back in line with TOS :P

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Re: NEW Star Trek Series Planned!!!!
« Reply #8 on: August 25, 2011, 10:22:55 PM »
When was eureka cancelled Dark?  Ive been watching all the new ep's!

All I care about in the end is that a ST series DOES NOT take place in the jjverse.  The rest is all frosting on the cake!
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Re: NEW Star Trek Series Planned!!!!
« Reply #9 on: August 25, 2011, 11:38:34 PM »
well this news sounds very interesting - i really hope it happens!
but i wont get my hopes up to high tho... 

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Re: NEW Star Trek Series Planned!!!!
« Reply #10 on: August 25, 2011, 11:54:54 PM »
When was eureka cancelled Dark?  Ive been watching all the new ep's!

All I care about in the end is that a ST series DOES NOT take place in the jjverse.  The rest is all frosting on the cake!

Well, officially the show doesn't end until sometime next year (Season 5, currently airing the last episodes of Season 4).

Was a bunch of weird stuff that happened around the time of the cancellation announcement.

First, SyFy wanted to do 6 more episodes for Season 6, but at a reduced production cost. The producers/writers of Eureka basically said it was impossible to keep up with the level of quality of the show, if the show would have to resort to less money. This resulted in SyFy backing out of it's 6-episode commitment, and stating abrubtly that Season 5 would be the last season. Originally, the production team were getting ready to shoot the "last" episode of the show, which would've given them no time to write/produce a proper series finale. SyFy later caved, and "granted" them an additional 1-episode.

So, here's the math on how it all went down:

Season 5 + 6 episodes - 6 episodes + 1 episode :)

Note: SyFy are very good at cancelling shows within 5 years of development. SG-1 aired on Sci-Fi for 5 seasons, Atlantis ran for 5 seasons, BSG ran for 4 seasons, SG:U ran for 2 seasons, Caprica ran for 1 season. Noticing a pattern here? By this count, I estimate shows like Warehouse 13 and Sanctuary have at most 2 more seasons before they get cancelled (both are in Season 3).
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Re: NEW Star Trek Series Planned!!!!
« Reply #11 on: August 26, 2011, 01:53:11 AM »
I agree with pretty much everything Darkthunder said but I would like to see them go in a different direction, maybe have series about the Klingon's or Romulan's possibly shortly after the Dominion war. Have the crew centered around a new Warbird if Romulan ....a different perspective then the same old Federation.

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Re: NEW Star Trek Series Planned!!!!
« Reply #12 on: August 26, 2011, 02:00:43 AM »
The only way I can see it succeeding is if it starts afresh, not JJ or TOS fresh but something that starts from the begginning of a new crews journey into space. Kids now adays are alot more in touch with science, in the 60's and 80's new scientific discoveries were still being made, which made it scary and exciting at the same time. I think it will rely more on the personal side of things, to appeal to the younger generation, but as long as it still has the ships, weapons and general treknobabble, I'll be fine with it and set it to record on my Sky+ Box. :lol:

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Re: NEW Star Trek Series Planned!!!!
« Reply #13 on: August 26, 2011, 02:31:00 AM »
I agree with pretty much everything Darkthunder said but I would like to see them go in a different direction, maybe have series about the Klingon's or Romulan's possibly shortly after the Dominion war. Have the crew centered around a new Warbird if Romulan ....a different perspective then the same old Federation.

The important thing here is you have to connect with the audience, having it based round an alien race doesn't do that. :P

The second thing is you have to decide who your target demographic is. This steers the feel of the show; I grew up with TNG and DS9, so those type of shows are what I like. I hate 'reality' sience fiction (e.g. SGU, New BSG)
They are too character driven for me.

The younger generation may like character driven shows more, but you then have to target and pull in that audience while potentially alienating (pardon the pun) those viewers of the older shows...
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Re: NEW Star Trek Series Planned!!!!
« Reply #14 on: August 26, 2011, 08:03:48 AM »
The important thing here is you have to connect with the audience, having it based round an alien race doesn't do that. :P

The second thing is you have to decide who your target demographic is. This steers the feel of the show; I grew up with TNG and DS9, so those type of shows are what I like. I hate 'reality' sience fiction (e.g. SGU, New BSG)
They are too character driven for me.

The younger generation may like character driven shows more, but you then have to target and pull in that audience while potentially alienating (pardon the pun) those viewers of the older shows...

I disagree, a lot of people's favorite Characters in Star Trek are not human.. infact the federation is made of different races.    :P Regardless anyone who has half a clue about star trek knows of the Romulan's and Klingon's. It would come down to making interesting characters and a good story like any other show to become successful.

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Re: NEW Star Trek Series Planned!!!!
« Reply #15 on: August 26, 2011, 08:15:07 AM »
I don't think common knowledge of the Trek universe (recognition of "Beam me up, Scotty!" and the like aren't common knowledge of the universe) is pervasive enough in our culture today to make a show almost exclusively about aliens in Trek successful. You could probably get a movie out of it, but not a series. Any series is going to have to be Federation-centric to be successful, though it doesn't have to have a majority of human cast members. Just a couple here and there, and enough aliens that are human-like enough to identify with (and that falls under personality more than appearance).

Personally, I think that a new Trek series isn't going to have any more challenges being set in the existing timeline/canon than a completely new series with its own cannon. The problem isn't having trouble coming up with new ideas in the existing canon, it's coming up with fresh and solid stories, period. Hollywood has always been known to be more about flash and action than story, and that reputation has only been growing as better-than-real-life CGI effects have gotten better and easier to shovel in. Getting a good story is a challenge, regardless of what universe it's set in, and a show like Trek is going to require, first and foremost, a good story. It doesn't matter if it's NuTrek or Ye' Olde Trek, if the story and writing and dialogue are crap, the show just won't work. It's not the kind of show that can get away with crap writing and crap ideas and stories and still pull in solid ratings. And getting good, relevant stories that engage people is going to be a challenge for any Trek, Nu or Ye Olde, because all the 'low-hanging fruit' stories have already mostly been done, by Trek or some other show, and what's left will quickly be exhausted. Writing a good Trek show, regardless of which canon it uses, is going to require real effort in writing and storytelling, something that the Hollywood culture has largely been shying away from.
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Re: NEW Star Trek Series Planned!!!!
« Reply #16 on: August 26, 2011, 05:42:25 PM »
I disagree, a lot of people's favorite Characters in Star Trek are not human.. infact the federation is made of different races.    :P Regardless anyone who has half a clue about star trek knows of the Romulan's and Klingon's. It would come down to making interesting characters and a good story like any other show to become successful.

No, not really. The federation is human-centric. How many non-human species did you see in the core cast of any of the shows? Not that many compared to the number of humans/part humans.
To sell a story, viewers have to be able to connect to the human elements of it. That usually means human or near human aliens and their characters have to be promenant and relevant to the viewer.
Otherwise as Illith says, the show won't fly.

You also have the reverse of this (e.g. SGU), where the show is so focussed in the minutia of human characters and their interactions, that the plot is lost, and the viewer loses interest very quickly.
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Re: NEW Star Trek Series Planned!!!!
« Reply #17 on: August 27, 2011, 12:13:23 AM »
Regardless anyone who has half a clue about star trek knows of the Romulan's and Klingon's. It would come down to making interesting characters and a good story like any other show to become successful.

The thing is, any new Star Trek television series, would have to be developed to try and attract as many viewers as possible. This means presenting both the story and characters to an audience who might know the difference between a Vulcan and a Phaser, or the phrase "Beam me up Scotty". TV-executives can't assume that all their viewers will be "die hard Star Trek fans", and as such the show needs to appeal to a large audience.

First, build the audience. Second, build the story. In most any other show, the pilot episode tends to be mostly action-centric, followed by multiple episodes dealing with the characters and their individual back-story.

I do not want a new Star Trek series to be "all drama" i.e BSG/SGU. I want to immerse myself in a show that is different from my own life. A show which I can learn to care for the characters, but not one that is solely character-driven. The story should always come first in my opinion. Being Star Trek, that story should deal with how we as human beings have the potential to become "better than we are today", in a world/galaxy where there is no poverty, hunger or wars. The latter of which is sometimes inevitable, but even at the height of arguably one of the best Trek shows (DS9), war was not something Humanity sought, but merely reacted to.

A great episode example, is 'In the Pale Moonlight' where a character struggles with his/her inner demons, breaking multiple rules and regulations, in an attempt to "do the right thing", for the greater good. Sometimes, an immoral act, could lead to a positive outcome for others.
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Re: NEW Star Trek Series Planned!!!!
« Reply #18 on: August 28, 2011, 10:19:47 AM »
Well, officially the show doesn't end until sometime next year (Season 5, currently airing the last episodes of Season 4).

Was a bunch of weird stuff that happened around the time of the cancellation announcement.

First, SyFy wanted to do 6 more episodes for Season 6, but at a reduced production cost. The producers/writers of Eureka basically said it was impossible to keep up with the level of quality of the show, if the show would have to resort to less money. This resulted in SyFy backing out of it's 6-episode commitment, and stating abrubtly that Season 5 would be the last season. Originally, the production team were getting ready to shoot the "last" episode of the show, which would've given them no time to write/produce a proper series finale. SyFy later caved, and "granted" them an additional 1-episode.

So, here's the math on how it all went down:

Season 5 + 6 episodes - 6 episodes + 1 episode :)

Note: SyFy are very good at cancelling shows within 5 years of development. SG-1 aired on Sci-Fi for 5 seasons, Atlantis ran for 5 seasons, BSG ran for 4 seasons, SG:U ran for 2 seasons, Caprica ran for 1 season. Noticing a pattern here? By this count, I estimate shows like Warehouse 13 and Sanctuary have at most 2 more seasons before they get cancelled (both are in Season 3).

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By the matrix, I want to smash some skulls in at Syfy.

Eureka and Warehouse 13 are their highest rated shows ever!  Who gets rid of things like that.  It isn't like they are entering into their 7th or 8th season!  What kind of idiots are these people? 

Now, some story series shouldn't go season after season, but damn....I just don't know what to say beyond spam sending executives at Syfy some scathing communications.  lol 

Do these people making these decisions really thing people are watching syfy for wrestling?  Mens version of a soap opera?  I'm not against soap opera's.  I grew up watching General Hospital.  Do these people really think people LIKE their original movies?  Do we need another Giant Zombie Baby vs Mega Rabid Rabbit?  I'll work for free for a year.  They pay for housing and food and I'll veto or approve ideas.  I will create jumping off points for series creations and uphold some damn standards.  I would UNDERSTAND the viewer base. 

Cartoon Network and Adult Swim know their base.  They are a niche network just like Syfy.  Hell, Adult Swim wastes time on "commercials" that at times, are nothing.  Literally!  There was a bump one night that was just a blank black screen for like 15 seconds.  No sound.  Nothing.  Then quick show of the logo and a show starts back up.  This isn't rocket science, so why the hell is someone getting paid big bucks to make such horrible decisions? 

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Re: NEW Star Trek Series Planned!!!!
« Reply #19 on: August 28, 2011, 05:26:51 PM »
This isn't rocket science, so why the hell is someone getting paid big bucks to make such horrible decisions?

Probably the same reason that anyone today is paid big bucks to fuck things up in any industry: Golf bodies scratching each others' backs.
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