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Would you like to get involved with the new community wiki?

Yes, please contact me!
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Sorry, I'm not cool enough.
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Total Members Voted: 27

Voting closed: June 05, 2011, 10:48:45 PM

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Offline kitkat27

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Re: Community Wiki
« Reply #20 on: June 04, 2011, 07:49:06 AM »
I would be interested in helping out any way I can. :)

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Re: Community Wiki
« Reply #21 on: June 04, 2011, 01:14:41 PM »
i dont know enough trek to help, but i enjoy a good wiki and am happy to see that you are implementing one. hopefully it will become something like the guildwars wiki and be a game reference utility

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Re: Community Wiki
« Reply #22 on: June 13, 2011, 02:30:42 AM »
I have a Star Trek encyclopedia that was published pre-Generations (film) that could come in useful... I'd be willing to type up A through Z. The encyclopedia has charts on many things inc, warp factors (how far and how long it would take) even ship calss, registarys and vessels seen throught the series. Also the episode the ship was from.

I also read before that someone would like to have this encyclopedia integrated into the game. I would love to see it on a bridge console or something just so you can read a good "Starfleet Database." Would be nice to see a good LCARs UI aswell. :D

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Re: Community Wiki
« Reply #23 on: June 13, 2011, 01:19:32 PM »
I have a Star Trek encyclopedia that was published pre-Generations (film) that could come in useful... I'd be willing to type up A through Z. The encyclopedia has charts on many things inc, warp factors (how far and how long it would take) even ship calss, registarys and vessels seen throught the series. Also the episode the ship was from.

I also read before that someone would like to have this encyclopedia integrated into the game. I would love to see it on a bridge console or something just so you can read a good "Starfleet Database." Would be nice to see a good LCARs UI aswell. :D

Depends what the devs consider canon, technically only stuff that has been on screen in the series/movies is usually considered canon, with the encyclopedia (which I've also got, but mine's from post-Generations) and the Technical Manuals only allowed on a case-by-case basis, since there's a lot of contradicting stuff in both of them. As it goes now Memory Alpha does a pretty good job of providing a canon Trek library, just need to use that as a base and write one that's designed for in-universe usage, and fill in all the gaps.
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Re: Community Wiki
« Reply #24 on: June 13, 2011, 06:27:26 PM »
Didn't the Encyclopedia only use stuff shown on screen?  We are talking about the one by the Okudas, right?

Memory Alpha also includes stuff from TAS, which last time I checked, isn't canon.

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Re: Community Wiki
« Reply #25 on: June 13, 2011, 10:10:29 PM »
Didn't the Encyclopedia only use stuff shown on screen?  We are talking about the one by the Okudas, right?

Memory Alpha also includes stuff from TAS, which last time I checked, isn't canon.

Upon reading a few pages I can conclude that most of the content is of stuff that was on screen, and I didn't come across anything that I'd call un-canon. One thing I do find funny is that the additional section of all the content from after the previous edition of the encyclopedia was added at the end instead of being properly inserted in alphabetical order, like they couldn't be bothered or something. There are a few slight errors that I noticed, some of the illustrations were wrong or upside down (they've got a Jem' Hadar battleship the wrong way up), but nothing out of the ordinary for something with this much content.

There is a problem or two with using the encyclopedia for the in game wiki, 1) if we straight copy everything in the encyclopedia then it's plagiarism and technically theft, even citing sources it's still a 1-1 copy and would put us in legal hot water, 2) even ignoring that problem there is a huge amount of information in the encyclopedia, even with a team of people copy-writing it would take weeks to do (accounting for the limited time most people can spare for a hobby between work and family). In the end it comes down to how detailed we need the wiki to be, ideally we only need as much information as the player would reasonably wish to access from within the game. Adding too much would hamper their ability to navigate and search the database, not to mention incur larger storage requirements for either local storage (if the database was copied to the players computer to save on bandwidth) or remote storage (if it wasn't).

To limit this there will need to be guidelines for the basic wiki, which I assume the devs will release in due time, but if I had to make a guess I'd say that the wiki would initially be limited to technical (how technology works in Star Trek), scientific (various phenomena that a starship might encounter and how they've been handled before) and light history sections (a limited retelling of the events of all the series and movies as well as approved speculation on the history that occurred between those time periods and outside the scope of the series/films).

TAS is semi-canon, the episode "Yesteryear" has been considered canon by production staff in the past, as much of the content from the episode has been referenced in future episodes (such as the city of Shi'Kahr or Vulcan's Forge). Furthermore I believe there was a vote a while back on startrek.com about the canon status of TAS, though I'm not sure how it turned out.
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Re: Community Wiki
« Reply #26 on: June 16, 2011, 08:15:38 AM »
Yes this pre-Generations encyclopedia, is all on screen and film information. I dont think theres anything else to it. Its all facts about everything in TNG and TOS. It has a few seasons of DS9 in there too. I do like how it says "speculated" design of the Enterpise-B on the Excelsior class though haha. Its like taking a look back at Star Trek as it was when i was a kid. :D

Theres probably alot of "out of date" facts in there but still a pretty good book to flick through when bored. ^_^ I do admit that memory alpha has alot of information but it would be a royal pain to get through all the nonsence to get to the actual useful facts. I have used it on occasion and it does seem to cover everything though sometimes i read MA and wonder if im reading speculation or actual fact, i think thats where the problem of siving through it will emerge.

You were right Deane!! :D

To confirm, the book is called: The Star Trek Encyclopedia A Reference Guide to the Future. By Michael Okuda, Denise Okuda and Debbie Mirek.

The blurb:

Here it is! The definitive reference book for STAR TREK(R) fans. This massive encyclopedia is the first book ever to bring together all three incarnations of this incredible television and feature film phenomenon: the original STAR TREK series, STAR TREK: THE NEX GENERATION(R), and STAR TREK: DEEP SPACE NINE(TM).

Since STAR TREK's debut in 1966, hundreds of hours of STAR TREK episodes and films have been produced, with the STAR TREK universe growing in size and complexity every year. Now, Pocket Books is proud to present the one book that captures every fact, figure, and detail of the awesome STAR TREK saga.

Exhaustively researched and cross referenced, the STAR TREK ENCYCLOPEDIA features hundereds of photos and diagrams, and over 5,000 individual entries.

Information on:
  • Main and Supporting characters
  • Alien races
  • Planets and stars
  • Weapons and tools
  • Scientific terms
  • Medical equipment
  • "Inside gags"
...AND MORE

Illustrations include:
  • Starship recognition chart
  • Detailed prop illustartions
  • Phaser evolution chart
  • Starfleet uniform chart
  • Starship emblems
  • Technical diagrams
...AND MORE!

Coauthors Mike Okuda and Denise Okuda work behind the scenes on the STAR TREK television and feature-film production teams. Along with Debbie Mirek, they have painstakingly researched this encyclopedia to make it the ultimate STAR TREK sourcebook for fans and writers alike!

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Re: Community Wiki
« Reply #27 on: June 16, 2011, 06:36:24 PM »
The Encyclopedia has some of the same issues as Memory Alpha in that department, though only on smaller articles.  There are many of the form [insert food/drink here] is [insert encyclopedic information here].  [insert food/drink here] was once [eaten/drunk] by [insert character here].

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Re: Community Wiki
« Reply #28 on: June 17, 2011, 01:11:28 AM »
Thanks to all those who volunteered. The 5 members chosen have been contacted. Don't be discouraged from future community positions if you did not get contacted this time around.

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Re: Community Wiki
« Reply #29 on: September 24, 2011, 02:03:44 PM »
I'm interested, I didn't get a chance to vote on this, so please contact me if you need me.
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